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Spontaneous Collection Of Not-A-Kink - Margraviate Winhall
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Spontaneous Collection Of Not-A-Kink
I thought I'd collect a bit of what I see on the Ace Attorney kink meme that, at least in my eyes, is clearly not a kink. I'm not especially looking for it, but there's so much of it...


Can anyone tell me how a funny fic with face palming has any place in a KINK meme? Please, enlighten me.

Jake as the Lone Wanderer from "Fallout 3."

This doesn't even have a pairing, much less a kink.

Dodgeball. Boys vs. Girls. Play dirty anon.

The best this anon can come up with his a request for flirting. -__-x

Everyone's heard of the Pokérap. I think we need a lawyerap.

Funny, yes. Kink meme material? NO.

Nothing else has to be related to the show in any way, I just want Edgeworth turning into his car.

Which is a kink now, because...? o__Ôx

Edgeworth is working to a deadline and is really stressed out and Phoenix comes in and annoys him by singing Queen's 'Under Pressure' REALLY LOUDLY.

This one sentence is everything that needs to be said on the topic. It does not need to be shared on a kink meme.

The Princess Bride prompt on page 1 made me realize how much I want to see this.

Crossovers and stuff like that do NOT belong on a kink meme. Seriously, these people need a general "fic request meme".

Ace Attorney/Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy crossover please. Preferably with Miles as Arthur.

See above. Do these people even realize that "kink meme" is supposed to be more than just a cute title...?

Best pic evar!

Yes, that's very nice, and you're posting this here, why...? It's not even kinky fanart!

So anon, please would you kindly write up a cute Dick/Diego(or Godot ffff) sweet couple-y fic?

Again, how is this kinky? Go ask for fluffy fics somewhere else!

The wonderful adventures of Phoenix Gumshoe, Ema, Oldbag and Lauren Paups. The Miles Edgeworth Fangirling Society.

Hilarious. I'm sure you're about to tell me the pairing and kink of your prompt, right? No? Huh. Guess I must be on the wrong page then. No, still the kink meme. >__<;;

Collecting these took me less than 15 minutes, and I wasn't even trying.
Can someone please go and create "general fic request memes" as an addition to the kink memes of this world, so I can go search for kinky goodness without all this kink unrelated sh*t in between? I'd be more than grateful. Ù__Úx

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ecchipiro From: ecchipiro Date: April 5th, 2011 08:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
The Hetalia kinkmeme at least made a rule that you must put pairing and characters in the subject line. And a word limit for longer prompts. What breaks that rule gets deleted.

Other than that, yeah. Pretty much the same. UGH!
winhall From: winhall Date: April 5th, 2011 09:06 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thank goodness for that, it's something at least. The Ace Attorney kink meme definitely needs a rule like that.
And to think the Hetalia meme does have it and still... oh dear. Ú__Ùx
pandir From: pandir Date: April 5th, 2011 09:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
There really should be a general ficmeme. I don't want to search for an actual kink on a f*cking kinkmeme! D:

I already resigned to the fact that this meme is made of lulz, drama, fluff and silly stuff that just makes NO sense. Oh, and maybe some sex, which sometimes *happens* to be kinky.
Not that the occasional fluff fic I indulge in isn't cute, and I admit that the funny fics can be funny from time to time... but I'm really missing some nice, kinky PWPs.

Perhaps looking for actual porn, one should better visit AFF or the adult fanfic community on LJ: http://community.livejournal.com/igiari/profile
winhall From: winhall Date: April 5th, 2011 09:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
I know Igiary. It's not very active, and not everything is adult. And I've already gone through the archive on aff.net (though I might do that again now that I know a few more characters), and even there "adult" has a very broad definition, it seams. -_-;;

It's like you said: One shouldn't have to *search* for kink on an effin kink meme.
pandir From: pandir Date: April 5th, 2011 09:14 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, I skipped through Igiari and AFF.net in one or two day. :/

Seems like there is no real good porn supply in this fandom, although it is quite large. Strange.
Although there are lots and lots of PWPs on the kinkmeme, just not really much with pairings I like.
And what's worse, I'm so goddamn picky when it comes to characterizations...
winhall From: winhall Date: April 5th, 2011 09:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
I haven't even seen much that would qualify as a real kink meme request by my standards, pairing preferences notwithstanding.
But yes, I agree, there's not enough porn in this fandom.
I feel that Harry Potter is an easier fandom in that respect, even without spending too much time searching I always end up with a nice fic or two. ^^x
pandir From: pandir Date: April 5th, 2011 09:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
I can live with that, somehow. I was never really used to reading much fanfiction - in fact, I haven't read fanfics besides yours, Molly's and one or two others for years now.
Especially not in 5d's.

Still, it bugs me. I actually do want to read lots of ffs for AA, and that never happened to me before! (Except for when I was a 14-year old fangirl).
Somehow, the only AA thing I find lots and lots of fanfics is Gavincest, but ugh... D: It's so hard to find one that's not nauseatingly dramatic and/or filled to the brim with love confessions.
(Oh, btw: Should you encounter anything of those two that's hot and sick in an enjoyable way - let me know, please!)
winhall From: winhall Date: April 5th, 2011 09:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'll make sure to share good fanfics I happen upon, gavincest or not. XD
pandir From: pandir Date: April 5th, 2011 10:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
Okay, me too :D
rocks_not_dead From: rocks_not_dead Date: April 5th, 2011 09:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
So, kink memes have evolved into having a broader spectrum? What's so bad about that? It's not like it no longer generates porn or prompts with specific kinks and pairings. But when a large part of fanfiction in fandoms is generated by a kink meme with prompts from all sides of the spectrum, I don't think it's something to complain about. And, as always, the rule applies: don't like, scroll past, let others have their fun.
winhall From: winhall Date: April 5th, 2011 09:14 pm (UTC) (Link)
There being a lot of fanfics for a fandom is nice, yes, but a kink meme is a place for kinky stuff. It's just not the place for fluff or general fic requests. I go there because I want kinky porn, simple as that.

Like I said, people should just create a general fic request meme if that's what they want.
I'm personally not interested in non-adult fics, much less when I'm expecting something kinky.

And with this kink meme I do more scrolling than anything else. In terms of a kink meme, everything that's not a kink, even by a brod definition of the idea, is basically spam that mods should delete.

And above commenter mentioned that the Hetalia kink meme has a rule that dictates one has to at least ask for a clear pairnig and fic requests have a length limit, which I guess is a start.
rocks_not_dead From: rocks_not_dead Date: April 5th, 2011 09:27 pm (UTC) (Link)
Well, the majority of people seem to be perfectly fine with kink memes involving kinks that aren't generically kinky. On that note, who is anyone to say what is a kink for someone else? I know for a fact that there are people who are turned on by fluff or hurt/comfort.

Also, what is right for one kink meme and its users, does not have to be on another. And I think we really can't complain with bludhavens, who lets literally ANYTHING through, even if some people are (in my opinion rightly) offended by it.

Lastly, I'd say, why should the others go and create a gen (non-kink) meme? Create a kinks only meme of your own if it bothers you so much.

And I would like to leave this article with you http://fanlore.org/wiki/Kink_Meme and quote this: Most kink memes will have content that meets either or both fannish definitions of kink, and not all fills are sexually explicit. and There is a belief among many fans that kink memes have different rules, that nothing should stand in the way of freely requesting kinks by any definition of the word.

You will find that many other sources on the internet will have similar descriptions/definitions of a kink meme. (It would be interesting to know if there has actually been any academic work done on kink memes yet, unfortunately, I don't currently have any access to more reliable sources.)

And from the same article: Would you rather have your kink meme like this? Many kink memes have begun to restrict what types of prompts may be posted, even banning some kinks that are very popular in fandom. For example, a Hawaii Five-0 kink meme has banned any mention of incest in prompts, despite the fact that two of the four main characters are related.

What you have to consider is that once some prompts are ddisallowed, people have the right to request that others which they might not be in agreement with are too.
winhall From: winhall Date: April 5th, 2011 10:05 pm (UTC) (Link)
On that note, who is anyone to say what is a kink for someone else? I know for a fact that there are people who are turned on by fluff or hurt/comfort.

That is an issue, of course. While I believe that "fluff" isn't a "kink" in the sense of the word, one might argue that it is a turn on, and hence qualifies.
And I guess if it were mainly prompts like:
"character-a/character-b, fluff, insert rough description of a situation here",
that'd be okay. But a lot of posts on the kink meme are lengthy requests for a certain fic, often not even containing a pairing. And I can't tell you how tired I am of "this thing happened to me and now I want to see it happen to some character"-prompts.
That, I think, is not a kink in any sense of the word.
In any case, I believe a "kink" is something that in some way deviate from the norm. Why else would it be tradition to post anonymously?

Lastly, I'd say, why should the others go and create a gen (non-kink) meme? Create a kinks only meme of your own if it bothers you so much.

I guess that would be the logical approach seeing how I seem to be patr of a minority here. But it bugs me that what is called a kink meme is not actually used as such. =/
Why do we need an anonymous kink meme for most of the fics there? One oculd just post requests there and have the fics posted in a general community where one can use this pretty little feature called lj tags. Would make looking for specific stuff easier.
I always thought that kink memes were for the kind of fanwork one might be embarrassed to request/post openly... oh well, I figured out that wasn't the case a while ago. ^^;; ("The anonymous nature of the meme permits both prompters and fillers to have fewer inhibitions in making and filling requests, and may be a way for new fans to feel more comfortable about participating.">/i>)

As for the article: It states that things are this way, and that people seem to be fine with it. I thought as much, else someone might have done something already.
But I'm still unhappy with it. =/
And I agree that banning certain types of kink is not the right way to go about things, and that what I propose might look like a step in that direction.
I remember a discission on fandom_secrets where a mod from some kink meme admitted to having deleted a prompt she disliked due to personal experience, and s/he was heavily criticized for her action.

I think I'd be glad for a rule similar to what the Hetalia kink meme has done, which would at least put an end to those lenghthy fic requests but would still leave everyone the freedom to decide what their "kink" is. It'd be a start.
Not that I'm under any illusions here: it's probably not going to happen. Especially not with me doing some whining here. XD

Anyway, here's the link to that Gumshoe and Godot thingy... seems like it already got a oneshot fill, but Im sure no one would mind a second fill. ^^x
rocks_not_dead From: rocks_not_dead Date: April 5th, 2011 09:50 pm (UTC) (Link)


If you could direct me to the Godot/Gumshoe being coupley prompt, that would be lovely. I think I might like to fill it. :)
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